Installing Software: Tux VS. Bill Gates

Published on September 9, 2009 in Humor by Rami Taibah

BILL GATES

One of the many tired myths about Linux is that it’s very difficult to install software. Many argue why should they type in a command instead of can just clicking next, next, check a box, next, and one more next? However Windows isn’t really as clear cut as they try to make it sound to be. Last year, an E-mail sent by Bill Gates to some Microsofties was leaked. Bill detailed his frustrating experience in downloading and installing Windows Movie Maker. While Bill’s experience is extreme, it illustrates that typing a command isn’t so bad after all. Most modern Linux distros have graphical interfaces to install software anyways.

From: Bill Gates
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:05 AM
To: Jim Allchin
Cc: Chris Jones (WINDOWS); Bharat Shah (NT); Joe Peterson; Will Poole; Brian Valentine; Anoop Gupta (RESEARCH)
Subject: Windows Usability Systematic degradation flame

I am quite disappointed at how Windows Usability has been going backwards and the program management groups don’t drive usability issues.

Let me give you my experience from yesterday.

I decided to download (Moviemaker) and buy the Digital Plus pack … so I went to Microsoft.com. They have a download place so I went there.

The first 5 times I used the site it timed out while trying to bring up the download page. Then after an 8 second delay I got it to come up.

This site is so slow it is unusable.

It wasn’t in the top 5 so I expanded the other 45.

These 45 names are totally confusing. These names make stuff like: C:\Documents and Settings\billg\My Documents\My Pictures seem clear.

They are not filtered by the system … and so many of the things are strange.

I tried scoping to Media stuff. Still no moviemaker. I typed in movie. Nothing. I typed in movie maker. Nothing.

So I gave up and sent mail to Amir saying – where is this Moviemaker download? Does it exist?

So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated.

They told me to go to the main page search button and type movie maker (not moviemaker!).

I tried that. The site was pathetically slow but after 6 seconds of waiting up it came.

I thought for sure now I would see a button to just go do the download.

In fact it is more like a puzzle that you get to solve. It told me to go to Windows Update and do a bunch of incantations.

This struck me as completely odd. Why should I have to go somewhere else and do a scan to download moviemaker?

So I went to Windows update. Windows Update decides I need to download a bunch of controls. (Not) just once but multiple times where I get to see weird dialog boxes.

Doesn’t Windows update know some key to talk to Windows?

Then I did the scan. This took quite some time and I was told it was critical for me to download 17megs of stuff.

This is after I was told we were doing delta patches to things but instead just to get 6 things that are labeled in the SCARIEST possible way I had to download 17meg.

So I did the download. That part was fast. Then it wanted to do an install. This took 6 minutes and the machine was so slow I couldn’t use it for anything else during this time.

What the heck is going on during those 6 minutes? That is crazy. This is after the download was finished.

Then it told me to reboot my machine. Why should I do that? I reboot every night — why should I reboot at that time?

So I did the reboot because it INSISTED on it. Of course that meant completely getting rid of all my Outlook state.

So I got back up and running and went to Windows Updale again. I forgot why I was in Windows Update at all since all I wanted was to get Moviemaker.

So I went back to Microsoft.com and looked at the instructions. I have to click on a folder called WindowsXP. Why should I do that? Windows Update knows I am on Windows XP.

What does it mean to have to click on that folder? So I get a bunch of confusing stuff but sure enough one of them is Moviemaker.

So I do the download. The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes. Amazing how slow this thing is.

At some point I get told I need to go get Windows Media Series 9 to download.

So I decide I will go do that. This time I get dialogs saying things like “Open” or “Save”. No guidance in the instructions which to do. I have no clue which to do.

The download is fast and the install takes 7 minutes for this thing.

So now I think I am going to have Moviemaker. I go to my add/remove programs place to make sure it is there.

It is not there.

What is there? The following garbage is there. Microsoft Autoupdate Exclusive test package, Microsoft Autoupdate Reboot test package, Microsoft Autoupdate testpackage1. Microsoft AUtoupdate testpackage2, Microsoft Autoupdate Test package3.

Someone decided to trash the one part of Windows that was usable? The file system is no longer usable. The registry is not usable. This program listing was one sane place but now it is all crapped up.

But that is just the start of the crap. Later I have listed things like Windows XP Hotfix see Q329048 for more information. What is Q329048? Why are these series of patches listed here? Some of the patches just things like Q810655 instead of saying see Q329048 for more information.

What an absolute mess.

Moviemaker is just not there at all.

So I give up on Moviemaker and decide to download the Digital Plus Package.

I get told I need to go enter a bunch of information about myself.

I enter it all in and because it decides I have mistyped something I have to try again. Of course it has cleared out most of what I typed.

I try (typing) the right stuff in 5 times and it just keeps clearing things out for me to type them in again.

So after more than an hour of craziness and making my programs list garbage and being scared and seeing that Microsoft.com is a terrible website I haven’t run Moviemaker and I haven’t got the plus package.

The lack of attention to usability represented by these experiences blows my mind. I thought we had reached a low with Windows Network places or the messages I get when I try to use 802.11. (don’t you just love that root certificate message?)

When I really get to use the stuff I am sure I will have more feedback.

Half way across the world Xiang Hu typed:
sudo apt-get install kdenlive

And started editing on his son’s 3rd birthday video. Youtube didn’t exist in 2003, he only got to share the video with his family.

It is still unknown whether Bill Gates got to make his home video or not.

About Rami Taibah

Rami Taibah the founder of The Linuxologist and a self proclaimed geek and Linux aficionado. This fall, he will be pursuing an MIMS degree at UC Berkeley, California. You can follow him on Twitter @rtaibah.

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  • arvind
    fake
  • Seriously.
    To anyone who says that you must be a geek to use Linux:
    If you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk about it.
    GUI Installers galore exist for Linux, particularly Ubuntu.
    You only make it complex if you mess around with it.
  • jajaja, windows...
  • Good for Bill! I think it's commendable for the a high executive like Bill (at the time) to install his software like an average user. I'm sure he could have pulled in the installer from their own internal servers, but he went like a normal non-Microsoft person would go about this.

    Their site has improved dramatically in the past couple of years. And I think the guys at Microsoft are getting usability right in Windows 7.

    Having said that, I have yet to find an easy way to run Windows Update from the command prompt. Perhaps they have a PowerShell command for that. I just like it in Ubuntu to do an update I just do a "sudo apt-get upgrade."

    Oh, well. :)
  • This is what happens when a Man (Bill Gates) gives control of his company to a bunch of Administrators and Executives. Take control of the mess Bill...and clean it up...or your co. is going to be "obsolete" some day.
  • Name
    I don't see how comparing a supposed "leaked" email from 2003 is relevant to installing software in linux in 2009. Go back, and get some install instructions for kdenlive for 2003, and see what happens. Windows as improved substantially in the last 6 years, as has linux, but linux is still unusable for the average (non-geek) user.
  • Ketchua
    Windows has improved? Don't be ridiculus... I've used Windows XP from 2003 up to last october. Then I couldn't take it anymore, so i switched to Ubuntu. XP hasn't improved one bit since it's release...

    @flyfish: You can already run a shitload of cutting edge graphics games under Linux, without a "buggy windows emulator". They're called NATIVE games. All games using an OpenGL engine like Source, UT, Quake can be run without a single problem. And that "buggy emulator" has improved a lot, to the point where you can run almost every hyped-up new game through it. For reference, see this: http://www.youtube.com/user/DaweyYT
  • Name
    Amazing article...But is this real? Has Bill Gates written this for real or it is a fake e-mail ?
  • You're comparing a Windows download from 6 years ago to software installation on a Debian based machine of today. To be fair, if you're going to make comparisons like these you should put both OS's on equal footing and only include the video editing software that was in the respective repos at the time this email originated. I don't think you'll find that it had the storybook ending that you have here.
  • You have a point Rob, this is why the whole blog is filed under humor :)

    In any case, thats not really the point. Bill didn't have problems with installing the software, but rather he had problems with FINDING the software. Which is still a problem with Windows today. Software is either installed by getting a physical CD, or hunting it down online. As opposed to the centralized method that apt-get provides. This was in 2003, apt-get was first introduced to a stable Debian release in 1999 :)
  • flyfish
    2003? WTF? Will you sneer at DOS memory management next?

    Let me know when I can run a shitload of games with cutting edge graphics on Linux without a buggy windows emulator.
  • Yes from 2003. The world, when it comes to OSes things haven't changed a lot. The dominant OS is still XP, and this happened on XP. Though I haven't been on a Windows machine for a while, I would wager that nothing really has changed. Finding software on Microsoft's website is still an arduous task that makes "apt-get" seem so easy.

    Of course, once you find the app on Windows, its a breeze from there. But my point is the Linux way makes more sense. Why do I need a browser to find applications. Just have a big fat repo, put all the apps in there, and create one global package manager.
  • Verloines120
    PS3 ring a bell?
  • Steve
    If they make them, they will run.

    And a restart will not be required.
  • Jim
    But the question is, of course: what command to type? What linux really needs to be mainstream is a consumer-targeted (KEY) package repository system for one major distro. No, synaptic, aptitude et al don't quality because they simply aren't consumer-targeted (dependency hell, poorly labeled descriptions, lack of snapshots of program interface and usage, etc). With that, we can truly see consumer, mainstream Linux (isn't that the goal of the community?)
  • i think you have to restart your windows system more the once.. M$ AutoUpdate is the industry leader in system restarts doesn't even seek permission first.
  • i don't know if this is real or not.
    all i know is: this is epic win !!
  • It is real my friend :) It was leaked last year from 2003.
  • Matthew Lish
    The more you use the command Line the easier it will become to just know what to type to get your desired result. If your not sure of the app name that you want try your wildcard characters to find the one you want. There is also TONS!!! of help online for anything you want to get done in any Linux distro. I loved this email though... It's not shocking that Gates is having problems with his own POS OS!! LOL
  • D Steele
    The difficulty is, of course, that casual users like me are afraid of the command window because we don't insinctively know what to type. How would one know to type "sudo apt-get install appname" without first being shown?

    Which is why I'm SO glad of Ubuntu. I'm sure there are other systems which allow application finding and installing so simply, but this one has been my only experience.

    All I need do is browse the apps I want, click on it, and - bingo! - it's installed and ready to roll. Magic! How does that happen?
  • That is true. I mentioned that there is a graphical option. All in all its just a matter of taste. Some might not like to type and prefer the slightly longer method of point and click, while others prefer the quicker method of typing.

    It happened, because unlike Windows, programs are pushed to you at your command. Not the other way around.
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