The Linuxologist

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Yep, this pretty sums it up

LoooL.. vampire porn! on top of my must-download-tonite list.. :p

NTFS supports permissions (ACL). So what's your point?

Regardless, the point is that a Linux user would never think of securing his/her files that way. How many Windows users know how to secure their files using ACL? Not many if you look at percentages. The same cannot be said about Linux users.

The same can not be said because Linux users have higher interest in computing.

Permissions/ACL are not made for securing files, they are just to manage the users and services access to files, usually good for remote access. There is no data security without encryption.

LOL

Really funny, and it's true.... btw mr windows user dont mess with us-

Well, thats a pretty retarded way to hide your dirty pictures. Me I have an invisible (you probably heard of it when you stumble) folder, and only I know where its located. People will find my shit if they just search for pictures though.
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"The same can not be said because Linux users have higher interest in computing."

What a stupid comment. I have 10 years Linux experience and an RHCE, managing an ISP infrastrucutre (BIND, web hosting, monitoring, etc), so that makes me a Linux user. I also have 15 years solid usage of SCO unix.

But I also have 10 years experience with Microsoft since NT 4, and have MCSE (2000 and 2003). So that makes me a Windows user right?

I wish people would stop thinking that you either get Linux OR Windows users. Anyone with a 'REAL' interest in computing technology would have worked and use both.

Also...

I wouldn't use NTFS or the method shown here to hide files in Windows. But I'll let you guys figure that one out.

@Leona: Of course this isn't the most secure method. With this method the names of the files will appear anyway, which is enough to incriminate any pimple-faced teenager or aspiring corporate employee...All I am saying is comparing between two security lax users from both "ideologies"...The first method that comes up to mind for a Windows user is "hiding" the folder, either from the properties menu or in some obscure file, or a combo of both...while the first thing that comes to mind for a Linux user is change permissions...which is more secure? You tell me :)

@Magnus: Ya thats very secure :P:P

Just dl magicfolders for windows. then you're all set

OK folks, follow along here please.

90% of Windows users arn't interested in computers, how they work, why they work, best practices, etc... They're users just like the Linux Guru is a user, however their level of involvement is different, so it's not a clear comparison.

Take one of the now growing number of Linux users who don't know how, or why computers work, but enjoy Linux for it's stability and because someone was nice enough to give them the non M$ option, and they'll do the "magical folder dance" just like the windows user would.

Likewise, someone interested in computers would have done the file and directory access restrictions on their windows machines just like they would have in Linux.

The Linux / Windows debate is over, now we're dealing with a war of the "hardcore" vs. "average user", where the hardcore people refuse to admit that there are people out there who don't care how a computer works, don't want to know how it works, only want to use it.

Remember, some people want to disassemble their toaster and put new elements into it to shave their toasting time down or burn pictures into their toast, others just want to put some butter and jam on it and call it a day.

well...mount these 2 disk on a computer where you are administrator or root...and well these technicks are pretty useless.

Encryption...

You forgot to make the folders hidden (just add a . in Linux), and make sure you edit that one config file so the folder doesn't get found using updatedb and locate.

But as others have pointed out, you ought to use encryption as the best strategy.

just burn to a disc. problem solved

but where to hide the disc...

Label it as something good and put in your "software collection" of CD-R's

I use trucrypt for my sensitive data, it mounts as a virtual hard drive. There is a big diffrence between windows user base and linux user base. Most peole who use windows really dont know a lot of the features, they just use it because that is all they know. Linux users on the other hand usually use linux because they have a better understanding of computers.

Us mac users just put it on an encrypted dmg and just mount it with a password whenever we want

CryptFS. More secure and obscurable than anything.

Given that most home computers have only a single account (and this goes for PCs or Macs), chmod 700 wouldn't help you.

I think the most effective thing Linux has going for it is the easy invisible files. You can't accidentally stumble across something named .porn simply because you can't see it by default. ls -a would find it, but if you name it something 4-5 letters long and innocous, you're fine.

I'm so tired of the windows vs. linux crap. I use both. I like both. And I think people who participate in this argument on either side are numbnuts.

Anyway, I keep my porn on an external drive. I get to watch my porn on my windows box AND my linux box, plus it's not on the computer to be searched out by prying eyes. Does that mean I win?

Why nobody mentions the linux loopback device? You can hide an entire filesystem in a container file (encrypted even) and just mount it when you want to access it.

And *that* is why Linux is better than Windows. :o

Hmm. I wonder what this all is about. Seems to me like the poster (and a lot of the commenters) just wanna demonstrate how less they understand about windows and linux.

1) NT has ACLs and you can use them. If you don't you are not a very experienced user, but that has nothing to say about windows or linux at all, because I'm sure no low-experienced ubuntu or suse user knows about the chmod command.

2) Why do you talk about *hiding* stuff if you actually do only restrict permissions on it? A folder which my gf can see but not access will attract her interest and bring me in a situation where I have to answer her questions, so your idea is even worse then the "windows users" idea as you tell it.

3) Some commenters tell something about encryption: But how would that help? See 2) for a reasoning why disabling access to a girlfriend or wife is not enough.
It should be clear that only a solution mix of encryption _and_ hiding can lead to the goal.

4) Intruder, how exactly does a linux user benefit over a windows user by beeing able to use images? Do you actually know that its possible to have images and mount them under windows, too? Okay, it takes additional software, but its not really harder to get them, as finding out how to loopback mount.

I am a Linux user and do appreciate the post. Your example shows the elegance and power of the command line in Linux. One way to do this in Windows (NTFS) is through the use of Alternate Data Streams. I'll let the Windows "power users" research that one.

Please continue to irritate the Windows users. Their responses are very entertaining.